Retumbo kicks ass with the 150ABLR too in my rifle. Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!. It looks like its a superior cartridge but with so many other more common cartridges, its hard to get that foot in the door. Advertised muzzle velocity is 2,835 fps. Nosler Pro Staff; Sponsored Shooters; Project 48; . Likewise, Im unimpressed with the new mid-30 caliber elk rifle offerings, when the 9.362 has been around for more than 110 years, and the .35 Whelen almost 100 years now. AccuBond and 165-gr. Lots of people think My .308s barrels last forever, the .243 should be good too.. I averaged maximum velocities for three bullet weights listed in the latest reloading manuals published by Lyman, Speer, Barnes, Hornady, Western Powders, Hodgdon, Swift, Berger, Nosler, and Sierra. If things change change and I choose a Savage action I modify the mag box slightly, but the Wyatt's is easier and they usually come out at 3.840" even though they are advertised as 3.825". During that time, if you could get ammunition-makers to open their books, youd have seen that the .270 was one of the top three or five bestsellers in their lineups. When firing a 150 grain AccuBond Long Range bullet from a rifle with a 26" barrel, the 27 Nosler has an approximately 400 fps advantage over the .270 Winchester, about a 300 fps advantage over the 270 WSM, and about a 100-150 fps velocity advantage over the .270 Weatherby. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Years of development and pushing the limits of what is possible in a rifle optic have led up to this moment. Nosler has taken the venerable 270 rifle caliber to a new level with the introduction of the all-new, 27 Nosler. And the 27 Nosler cartridge? The 27 Nosler is not presently offered in the Model 48 Long-Range with its all-steel barrel, but since the other Nosler cartridges are available in it, the 27 Nosler is likely to follow eventually. Im going to pull the case capacity for the .27 Nosler from the .26 Nosler and the .28 Nosler, which Im seeing is about 94 grains. Originally touted to push a 130-grain bullet at 3,140 fps, it was lightning-fast in the year 1925. I seldom notice recoil when shooting a rifle at game, but a muzzle brake is nice to have when accuracy testing and developing handloads. Kevin Steele from Petersen's HUNTING speaks to Jordan Egli of Burris Optics about the all-new Veracity PH Riflescope. Based on the 404 Jeffrey Same case as the 30 Nosler When compared to the 28 Nosler, the 27 Nosler has a longer neck and a shorter length to the shoulder to prevent the 28 from being chambered in the 27. Just like the other Nosler cartridges (with the exception of the 22 Nosler), the 27 Nosler uses a rebated rim case descended from the .300 Remington Ultra Magnum, which is itself descended from the .404 Jeffery. 27 Nosler Soon after Mike Lake of Nosler had completed the designs and specifications for a family of cartridges on the .404 Jeffery case, they were all registered with SAAMI. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is at the Streamlight booth at SHOT Show 2023 to go over the Bear Trap light from Streamlight. Follow him on Facebook&YouTubeand subscribe to his show: the Big Game Hunting Podcast. Share: Facebook Twitter WhatsApp Email Share Link. Before concluding, I must remind you that the classic .270 Winchester is not compatible with the superbly aerodynamic new projectiles unless you fit an aftermarket barrel with a fast 1:8 rifling twist rate. Federal, Hornady, Remington, SSA, Sellier & Bellot, and Prvi Partizan offer it, so there is no shortage of ammo. It's not well known that Nosler built its own barreled actions in-house for many years before ever making its rifles available to the public. Our editors have hand-picked these essential pieces of gear to make you a more successful hunter when you hit the game trails this season. Publisher, Kevin Steele is with Brett Marquardt from Streamlight Inc. discussing the new Streamlight Pro Tac 2.0, the latest edition in the Pro Tac series. There are hundreds of options for high BC bullets in multiple weights for the 6.5 and 7mm class of projectiles, you gain nothing by sticking with a .277 caliber. 27 Nosler Ah why not? In those days the few firearms writers working regularly were big fans of the .30-06, and little positive mention was made of the new upstart. So 8 rds. Were I looking to shoot game at 1000 yards (and Im not), I would be looking at something in the 7mm/0.284 space, not the .270/6.8 mm bullet space. We use cookies to make your experience better. This 8 twist 26" barrel loves 150gr Nosler ballistic tip and N570 with gm215m primers at a mild 3300 fps. Mine weighs 5.25 pounds, and a Swarovski 3-10X scope in a Talley lightweight mount adds only about a pound. The most accurate I shot was a Model 700 SPS with a 22-inch barrel. Hunters take a good percentage of shots from their knees or on their butts. 3,399. Short and fat, it is extremely efficient. of energy, making it a suitable choice for an all-around North American cartridge. Yote Klr Private. I also believe John Garand designed his rifle around a .270 cartridge. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Special order / hard to get parts for a rifle, thats just not my style. Full Member. Forums. bullet and 0.620 for the 165-gr. Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics 270 WSM or 27 Nosler build for 170 Bergers roadhunter Feb 8, 2020 Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member 1 2 Next roadhunter Well-Known Member Joined Dec 6, 2008 Messages 739 Location Oregon Feb 8, 2020 #1 Trying to decide on my next build. For you youngsters out there, the .404 Jeffery is over 100 years old, and was used to hunt everything in Africa, from lions to elephants. Finally bought a set from Starrett. And I also do like the quantification you applied. The Howa 1500 is a nice action, and their products quality is more than I would expect for the price point. Thats right in between the .270 Winchester and the 27 Noslerand this cartridge fits into short-action rifles and plays nicer with the short barrels popular with mountain hunters.In addition to the heavy-for-caliber Nosler ABLR, Browning introduced a new 175-grain .270 bullet in its Long Range Pro line. A recent change was made in the Model 48 action. The 27 Nosler has a long leade for sleek, high BC, long ogive, ABLR and RDF style bullets. 36,030. However, should you decide to go that route, there are gains. Its not pretty and its not all that fast, but you can believe me when I say it does a great job on Alaska-Yukon moose. and 6.5 Creedmoor data to see how this new modern breed of .270s measures up.For starters, we need to establish the practical capability of the classic .270 Winchester, with classic .270 bullets. The .270 Wby. Whats old is new again. May 16, 2014 138 153. or the massive 27 Nosler. Subscriber Services. would i need to change the bolt face? Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. (see my post above). In recent years supporters of the venerable, 95-year-old .270 Winchester have been asking, Hey! 6.5 mm PRC, .280 Ack. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Eventually, that zesty factory velocity underwent a practical adjustment to 3,060 fps, and 150-grain bullets at about 2,900 were added for use on bigger game such as elk. Its 26-inch Shilen barrel measured 1.15 inches at the receiver, and from there it tapered to a muzzle diameter of 0.635 inch. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. 27 Nosler 150gr AccuBond Trophy Grade Ammunition, 27 Nosler 165gr AccuBond Long Range Trophy Grade Ammunition. accuracy guarantee. One more cartridge that has a rep as a barrel burner: the 6.5-284. It was decided that bullet and cartridge neck diameter alone was not enough to guarantee that someone with arms like Popeye (the Sailor Man) could not force a 28 Nosler cartridge into a rifle chambered for the 27 Nosler. Everything considered, 130 grains has proven to be the ideal bullet weight, although I have often moved up to 150 grains when in elk country. The 27 Nosler, introduced in 2020, is the fifth cartridge developed by the family-operated company on the modified .404 Jeffery case. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Some cartridges, such as the .30/06 and .308, kept chugging along. You dont have to max it out. All Rights Reserved. Some figured the .270 was too small for use on anything but deer. You can also use our Rifle spec builder and create the gun of your dreams and get a pdf of all of the details emailed to you. Depends on how you load it. (Petersen's Hunting photo). The 7mm bullet space, however, has benefited from huge interest by the precision long-range shooters in F-class, benchrest, etc. The 27 Nosler is based on a necked-down .404 Jeffrey case, as are many other Nosler cartridges. 30 Nosler cases are preferred if forming 27 Nosler cases because of the similar shoulder dimension. Sep 12, 2011. Introducing the Veracity PH from Burris, the perfect combination of reliability, quality, and technology delivering a simple aiming solutiona tool for the hunter that just works. Ill hang on to my Vanguard and keep on shooting. I dont have much interest in these necked-down super magnum rifles. the 27 Nosler drops 11 less than a 270 Win and 7 less than a 270 WSM. Dividing this by 0.06026 gives a bit more than 1128. Initial factory loads will include the 150 grain AccuBond and the 165 grain AccuBond Long Range (ABLR) bullets. I wonder what the recoil is like? You are using an out of date browser. The Hide Armory. bullets). I have been running a 27 nosler for a few years,26/28 dies wont work.RCBS makes 27 nosler dies that are readily available. Another thing I will mention is the saami spec 27 nosler reamer has a very short freebore,I recommend having it throated a touch longer if you decide on the 165-170 class bullets. .458 Winchester Magnum History: The Complete Story, SIG Sauer P365 Pistol Now Offered in .380, 5 Best Long-Range Hunting Bullets Available Right Now, Springfield Armory SA-35 Pistol: Rebirth of the Browning P-35 Hi-Power, Casting Your Own Bullets for Lever-Action Rifles. Any idea on barrel life? ! fanboys who will jump on this, legend has it that when the man died he had sold nearly all of his 270s and had been working extensively with the 280 Remington in his final years so there. How the Brand-New 27 Nosler Revives the .277, We used the new cartridge on a big-game hunt last fall. was introduced when he was still climbing sheep mountains, and if he ever hunted with it, I dont recall reading about it. This results in best-possible ballistic performance with minimal powder usage, maximum consistency in velocity, and impressive performance at a modest price in recoil. Data published in various reloading manuals answer that question. Besides loving big bore rifles, I like barrel burners too. Case dimensions were also refined to prevent cross-caliber chambering. If needed, 27 Nosler brass can be formed from 30 Nosler brass. Yup. Another yawn fest from Nosler. All Petersen's Hunting subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. (Ret.) I want to emphasize this last point you can burn up any barrel if you mistreat it and get it very hot, or if you do something like clean it with a segmented cleaning rod, etc. Available in high performance Nosler calibers from 22 to 33, plus popular offerings such as the 6.5 Creedmoor, 308 Win. Pacific Tool & Gauge has chamber reamers for all Nosler cartridges, including the 27 Nosler, 35 Nosler, and 36 Nosler. and 3,302 fps for the .270 WSM for a difference in favor of the .270 WSM of 144 fps. Heres how it performed. The 27 Nosler, introduced in 2020, is the fifth cartridge developed by the family-operated company on the modified .404 Jeffery case. Whether you decide to breathe new life into an old .270 Winchester by giving it a new fast-twist barrel, opt for the efficient, impressive 6.8 Western short-action magnum, or jump in with both feet and get the daddy dragon of them allthe 27 Nosleryoull be better served by the .270 than ever before. This allows an increase in powder charge weight for higher velocity at no increase in chamber pressure. Theyre both the same diameter bore they both want to shoot bullets of 0.224 diameter. Id be surprised to see the barrel last more than a few thousand rounds. Those who generally knock the 270 Winchester havent shot diddle with it. Good for the industry to add new calibers. Nosler M48 Long-Range Carbon Sniper Grey Bolt Action Rifle - 28 Nosler - 3+1 Rounds. Whether you decide to breathe new life into an old .270 Winchester by giving it a new fast-twist barrel, opt for the efficient, impressive 6.8 Western short-action magnum, or jump in with both feet and get the daddy dragon of them allthe 27 Nosleryoull be better served by the .270 than ever before. Not far from you, live near Beulaville. Prior to working with the Model 48 Long-Range Carbon, I wondered if an interior magazine length of 3.425" would rule out the use of some extremely long, high-ballistic-coefficient bullets available from other companies. Nosler has used several different triggers through the years, and this one has a fully adjustable Timney with a two-position safety that, when engaged, allows the bolt to be rotated for loading and unloading the chamber. As youll see, in terms of wind drift, maintained energy and velocity, and bullet drop, the 6.8 Western trounces both the 6.5 Creedmoor and the classic .270 Winchester, even with the latter loaded with a good boattailed, polymer-tipped bullet. | Nosler guarantees minute-of-angle accuracy for three-shot groups with the companys ammunition, and the 150-gr. When throated it should still have room in a 3.6" magazine. That is, not unless you replace that 1:10-twist factory barrel with a custom barrel with a 1:8 twist. A faster-than-standard 1-8.5 twist barrel design allows the 27 Nosler to propel Noslers factory-loaded 150gr AccuBond and 165gr AccuBond Long Range bullets (new for 2020) at never-before-seen velocities and distances in 270 caliber. Reloder 50 did a good job behind the Nosler 160-grain Partition, and H50BMG and US 869 would likely do as well. I mention this because if one of those rifles is purchased on the used-gun market, a couple of things should be kept in mind. Within a few years, bullets ranging from 90 grains to 160 grains (a flatbase, roundnose version that would stabilize in 1:10-twist rifling) were available for the .270, offering broad-spectrum versatility.The practical range is about 450 yards, although top riflemen occasionally reach out as far as 500 or 600 yards with the classic .270 Winchester.Check out the comparison chart showcasing the performance of the 6.8 Western against the classic .270 Winchester and the 27 Nosler. among American manufacturers, but to assure complete stabilization of the new lengthy bullets, twist rate for the 27 Nosler is 1:8.5". https://www.classicfirearms.com/winchester-ammo-usa3501-350legend-145-fmj/?trk_msg=KM46TDUBC934TBJRD6HE6L1RK8&trk_contact=HV2LE0TME28289VEE1IUNCQIEG&trk_sid=0AUFDEEA49UBNM3L4PM3VR3TFO&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=https://www.classicfirearms.com/winchester-ammo-usa3501-350legend-145-fmj/&utm_campaign=20200119350Legend&utm_content=Secondary. Dakota Arms (of Sturgis, SD) makes custom rifles for hunters, has for decades, and they make their own line of cartridges to feed them. and .375 Holland & Holland Magnum, but it took very little reading between the lines to see that the .270 was his favorite. That did not turn out to be true. Does anyone have any experience or info with this cartridge? Nov 8, 2006. One more datapoint for relative feel of how much burn? Lets take one of the rifle cartridges I see come through the shop for re-barreling, the .243 Winchester. Area of the bore is 0.04676 in^2. My idea of an African cartridge is a .404 Jeffery as well, so I guess Im just not that sold on all this new cartridge stuff. OConnor was also right about powder and bullet weight. AccuBond load came close to living up to its billing. The .270 Winchester, depending on what/how you loaded it, could be bordering on overbore or well into overbore status. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. The short version is that weve had greater advancements in rifle accuracy in the past 20 years than in the 100 years prior. For trouble-free feeding of any bolt-action rifle, I prefer to keep maximum Cartridge Overall Length 0.020" shorter than interior magazine length, and that would be 3.405" for the Model 48. As I say, Ill have to sit down with the prints and look at them. It may not display this or other websites correctly. If i were to build a rifle chambered in 28 Nosler, would my action from R700 chambered 7mm Rem Mag work? Other rifle makers will take years to jump on board. Make sure to watch till the end. While it is 13 ozs. Mike Schoby takes his nephew, Mitchell, on his first-ever whitetail hunt in Nebraska. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. The flat-bottom fore-end snuggles nicely into a sandbag, and yet measuring 1.88" wide at its midpoint, it is narrow enough for a comfortable fit with the hand. From the postWorld War II era right up to the early 2000s, the .270 was a colossus among big-game hunting cartridges, a mighty twin of the immortal .30/06. The type of steel remains the same, but the bolt is now machined by Nosler from bar stock. Note that while Nosler's proprietary cartridges (to include the 27 Nosler), and the rifles they're available in, are capable of excellent accuracy at long range in the right hands, they're designed primarily for big game hunting, not for competition shooting. Live Chat Live Chat. The result is a cartridge with a very large case capacity that still fits in a standard length rifle action. And while Berger considers 1:8" to be optimal for the 170-gr. Still a great rifle. It might take a custom-made reamer with a long pilot. This doesnt do anything a dozen other chamberings cant do. Advertisement Rifle Specifications Calibre: .27 Nosler Barrel length: 24 inches Overall length: 45 inches Weight: 6 pounds Barrel twist & contour: 1-8 Sendero Light Length of pull: 13.5 inches Among my handloads, Reloder 25 and the Swift 130-gr. Named the 6.8 Western, its a short-action, non-belted magnum. First, the Weatherby Vanguard is a Howa 1500 barreled action in a Weatherby stock. I set up the rifle so that it hit 1.5 inches high at 100 yards, giving the bullet a 240-yard zero.

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