If so, what did you think about it? o&g( 0000012532 00000 n Even in the face of ongoing cultural appropriation and erasure, wendigo stories are but one reflection of the survivance, wisdom, and brilliance of Native peoples. so im sort of clueless how reddit works and made an account for this, so bare with me. For more information, please see our There's nothing wrong with drawing the popular concept of a wendigo monster, or drawing any monster with antlers, and calling it a wendigo. It's taboo to the Anishaabe people, but the common depiction of it in media is no where near the original frozen cannibal spirit that the legends are based off of. 2. Kaitlin Smith on November 30, 2021. U%.CI$ FKe{CiV/\Lg1DD$A!=FHD6 EInw^9qkCh&1rvR'`{7X wEB7Az~q0n8 t)$xh1rQJ,p>O/$-J)'OTk|m9(k|6U g/-JU;WM}7d5)V.yX=Qu,TDI+CA_5U|nH$WK7G3-aYaqeV2jWQV6C6OY"W5?x;f_27j3Y)/G`j|e9NHCp+-r4g7D? c! Western appropriation has long-lasting effects on the perceptions of Native American cultures by the average consumer and even scientific communities. If you do go as a specific person, avoid figures of religious or cultural significance to a particular group to which you do not belong. :)Looking to buy some stickers or look at some pictures of my art or my other things? Mythologynote my use of the capital M to convey that it is far more than just some made-up stories; it is stories containing deeper spiritual truthsbelongs to all of humanity. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Abstract. Not only is it not offensive, I LOVE seeing references to wendigos in popular culture! Smith and Fiore detail that, among the Cree and northernmost Ojibwa, it is a feared creature because it is understood as both a 'mythic character' and as a threat to humans (2010: 68). endobj J.K. Rowling's Cultural Appropriation Should Be A Lesson To White Writers Native Americans shouldn't be a "niche," and neither should women, LGBT people, or people of color. I know what cultural appropriation is but Ive not been as involved in social justice as I used to be and I guess its showing. Dollightful's Apology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW-KBzKWvrUTo clear up the addition that I made even more, I think that it would be pretty important for the information on this topic to be easily accessible to her viewers. Sponsored by Ball State University Libraries. After thinking about it some more, I understand that its a kind of It was okay for these kids to pretend to be Indians but not for these kids to actually be Indians thing but I saw someone claim that it was contributing to colonisation and the death of death of their culture and that felt a bit strong. 0000011489 00000 n I'm just struggling to understand the significance of it. 0000009484 00000 n 4. Those things, the predation on the Indians by Europeans, most certainly happened. Driving down a dark quiet highway in Southern Manitoba, a man sees someone bent over on the side of the road. Only those entitled to them should wear them. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. 0000001365 00000 n Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. xref Privacy Policy. Answer (1 of 6): First and foremost, I'm not telling you this because I personally have a problem with you dressing as a wendigo for a cryptid fair, but we are living in an age of cancel culture where a costume you sported ten years ago might be used against you. 0000003976 00000 n Now that I have a major problem with. Archived post. MORTUI VELOCES SUNT! For artists, writers, gamemasters, musicians, programmers, philosophers and scientists alike! 0000000016 00000 n This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. 0000023412 00000 n For resources: http://reddit.com/r/SRSDiscussion/wiki/required. 2 0 obj %PDF-1.4 % and our From Stephen Kings Pet Sematary to the television series Hanibal, the flesh-eating image of the wendigo is often presented apart from its original cultural contexts where it carries deep moral significance. 0000002723 00000 n i don't think there should be any 'canceling' of Wendigoon or whatever, but definitely something should be said. 0000009954 00000 n Okay, dont anybody get me wrong. Windigo is a malevolent manitou or spirit whose insatiable appetite for human flesh can never be satisfied. The wendigo is intended to embody hunger, particularly as refracted through the icy cold of winter and the monstrous things that people do when their appetites overwhelm them. HeyYaIQ 21 days ago. The windigo is a Native American spirit belonging to the Algonquian tribes of North America and Canada. Check it out here:https://youtu.be/fHE4fkvUpWMI really just made this video to express how I am currently feeling about the wendigo doll situation and the questions I have about it. 0000009056 00000 n We should show proper respect to our Cryptids at all times, and Im rightfully righteously indignant at the thought of anyone doing otherwise with Mothman. 0000000974 00000 n Wendigos, teepees and cultural appropriation I read some stuff yesterday saying that teepees are cultural appropriation and there was a long post about how wendigos aren't cryptids and how stories about them are cultural appropriation. Here's some links:Website - https://thesierramistify.wixsite.com/thesierramistifyEtsy - https://www.etsy.com/shop/thesierramistify?ref=simple-shop-header-name\u0026listing_id=736195213Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesierramistify/Art Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesierramistify.art/- Music used in this video -Prime Beatz - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkG3r3-ODOw The paper concludes that employing the Wendigo as a caveless creature is a common practice within horror as it easily creates a villain for white protagonists to defeat repeatedly. In a report from the Contemporary Folklore conference covered in issue 388 of FORTEAN TIMES, the go-to magazine for all things paranormal, weird, or unexplained, a complaint is voiced about the cultural appropriation of the Wendigo, likening it to the sexualization of the Mothman statue in Point Pleasant, West Virginia. Early folklore described them as tall and impossibly emaciated humanoids with sharp incisors and a heart of ice. % Cookie Notice It has no place in the world of Folklore and monsters. Participate in good faith. hb```b``Ub`e``s`g@ ~+ a1fm{s/K5N9MHd@*2Ey]#B}>x,&ucrnhm:HkN=_B }Wzp.S#WCXi;dRa ,.0H*. Im just struggling to understand the significance of it. 4 0 obj 0000001546 00000 n I dont know who originally posted it, or where. As a creator, I believe it is my responsibility, the responsibility of any creator, if using characters that belong to a culture other than mine and exploring themes from that culture, to be accurate. Topics: Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. %PDF-1.7 As it so happens, I am currently working on a project involving a Wendigo, so this is personal to me. 0000013308 00000 n i don't know if anyone has talked about this, but i have a special interest in Native American culture, history, etc. s\&|5T!JN04hy'I0 1pv=~0-K$k}xSK"g:O*ox&zGa13(YXzy_{v-N^!c@[H symL,JyvCq;[H~! i enjoy his content, but the w*ndigo is part of a closed religion and is supposed to be a lesson about human greed and selfishness, not a cannibal monster story. No one can try to stake a singular claim to it. When you comment on, Asian American and Pacific Islander History, Race and Membership in American History: Eugenics. 0000015547 00000 n A classic example is wearing a Plains Indian war bonnet (see the 80s band The Village People). That taste of human flesh, which out of that rose the wendigo.. The Wendigo may be a figure from American Indian mythology, but it belongs to all of humankind. It was already here. When she was brought to the lab she already had the curse of the Wendigo but after she was "updated" she had visible antlers and could change her shape. Vol. In the course of the transformation from human to wendigo, the person exhibits increasing selfishness, violence, hunger, and greedparticularly for human flesh. Cooper and del Toro made the conscious decision to tell the story of the wendigo in a way that is respectful to its Native American roots, which in turn helps make Antlers a more authentic horror film. This articlescross-media analysiscovers television, film and game media;Teen Wolf(201117),Supernatural(200520), Bruce WemplesThe Retreat(2020) and SuperMassive GamesUntil Dawn(2015). 0000003862 00000 n Cultural appropriation is the co-optation of elements, customs, or practices of one culture by another culture without acknowledgment or consent. MORTUI VELOCES SUNT! In this paper, I document the depictions of windigo in Native American mythology, those of Western literature, and the effects of appropriation and misrepresentation on Native communities. I read some stuff yesterday saying that teepees are cultural appropriation and there was a long post about how wendigos arent cryptids and how stories about them are cultural appropriation. My basic rule is simple: be respectful. arent cryptids thing. wendigo cultural appropriation [26][27] During the winter of 1878, Swift Runner and his family were starving, and his eldest son died. I think she knew that her decision would be challenged and she wanted to let people know that she had valid reasons for doing what she did. Theyre revered spirits to the point where people wont speak their name so it must be frustrating when people are just like Oh yeah, I saw one of those, it was so spooky or have an aesthetic called wendigocore. hbspt.cta._relativeUrls=true;hbspt.cta.load(443401, 'c61f3219-a9f3-4b0c-95ea-f614a80c184b', {"useNewLoader":"true","region":"na1"}); Pictured above: A portion of the poster for the film Antlers (Fox Searchlight, 2021). The concept of cultural appropriation began well enough, but just like everything else woke culture political correctness, it's gone way too far. 0000010971 00000 n I have always felt a distinct emotional connection to it, in fact. His first novel, THE CONFESSIONS OF SAINT CHRISTOPHER: WEREWOLF, is available for purchase at https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/734763 Tell us about it in the comments. That, I would affirm, is truly and literally cannibalism, and it is cannibalism accompanied by no spiritually meaningful ceremony or ritual., More than a commentary on the life of wendigo stories amongst his own people, Forbes deploys the metaphor of the wendigo to advance nothing less than a critique of civilization at large and describes the violence that he argues lies at its foundation as one driven by a kind of wendigo psychosis. Cookie Notice Though these misrepresentations of the wendigo beg for critical interrogation, the wendigo stories of Algonquian peoples offer a window into the endurance of cultural resources used to transmit significant moral values, and underscore the power of Native people using these stories to engage in social critique. The creation of new worlds and new universes has long been a key element of speculative fiction, from the fantasy works of Tolkien and Le Guin, to the science-fiction universes of Delany and Asimov, to the tabletop realm of Gygax and Barker, and beyond. <>/ExtGState<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 595.32 841.92] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>> 7 (2020): Ghosts and Cultural Hauntings. <> I believe that the Wendigo is far older than that, far more primal. a lot of Natives and people in general don't even like saying the word itself. And you know what? i love the videos uploaded to youtube and try to keep up with posts, so this is by no means a bash at Wendigoon. Welcome to Facing Today, a Facing History blog. One recurring theme across these storytelling mediums is the use of the wendigoalso spelled wtikoa monstrous figure from Algonquian mythology who exhibits an insatiable greed along with a desire for human flesh. <<410561E535828C4ABA4EA5627C70A225>]/Prev 78716/XRefStm 1365>> The Wendigo happens to be part of my own (Anishiinaabe) cultural heritage. 0000012791 00000 n Ill admit, my initial reaction was very dismissive. Its incredibly validating to know that other people have heard about it and enjoy the story enough to make reference to the name and concept. 0000007047 00000 n (Think Noah from . The latest addition to this lineup of wendigo tales is Scott Cooper and Guillermo del Toros horror film Antlers (2021) in which a Native American character provides some brief exposition before the story centered around a white community contending with the monster begins in earnest. Thus I support Scott Cooper, the director of the forthcoming (hopefully by next spring) ANTLERS, in his efforts to seek out consultation from Indian advisors when making his movie, which features a Wendigo. And I accept that the Wendigo can symbolize for them that exploitation. The moral lessons contained in wendigo stories are also used to support the task of social critique in the late Native American scholar Dr. Jack D. Forbes book Columbus and Other Cannibals: The Wtiko Disease of Exploitation, Imperialism, and Terrorism (1978). startxref Posted by (A friend sent this screenshot to me, along with the info, because he knows how much PC-ism pisses me off. Although well-documented in Western literature, the windigo spirit of stories like . teachers and their students to stand up to bigotry and hate. Posts and comments should be substantive, and assertions backed in fact or personal lived experience. Just as the vampire and werewolf do not belong exclusively to people of European descent and the Mummy doesnt belong to Egyptians. During a panel at YES! Finally, it's just not that hard to do two minutes of. 0000003465 00000 n You dont have to be French to love the Phantom of the Opera. Far from just being a monster in an escapist horror flick, Forbes and LaDuke demonstrate that the wendigo can help us grasp the horrors of our real world so we can be here now and, ultimately, work toward solutions. In most traditions, the wendigo is human in origin and becomes a monster through a process that results either from acts of starvation-induced cannibalism or from possession by a spirit. Beyond Forbes, other Native American thinkers have also used wendigo stories to present critical perspectives on various social problems and call for their resolution. Still though, Im not sure I fully get the Native American spirits(?) This article analyses prominent examples of the Wendigo myth in modern North American horror media and the implications of misappropriation by non-Indigenous creators for non-Indigenous audiences. When the soldiers reach Ives' cave, Boyd and Reich investigate. One example is Ojibwe activist Winona LaDuke who has called for a decisive shift away from what she has termed Wendigo Economics for the sake of the health of the natural world. Basically, the wendigo was supposed to be a creature you didn't even say the name of or else you could draw the attention of one. Appropriating the Wendigo As it so happens, I am currently working on a project involving a Wendigo, so this is personal to me. 0000005304 00000 n In this paper, I document the depictions of windigo in Native American mythology, those of Western literature, and the effects of appropriation and misrepresentation on Native communities. His first novel, THE CONFESSIONS OF SAINT CHRISTOPHER: WEREWOLF, is available for purchase at https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/734763 This analysis will trace the process of these media, made by non-Indigenous white creators, removing the Wendigos indigeneity and placing it within fictional settings as an antagonist. 17spaz 2 yr. ago Handle the characters and the story with respect. I have named this observation of the Wendigothe Caveless Creature phenomenon. 0000005961 00000 n Copyright 2022 Facing History & Ourselves. You must be here to either learn more about social justice or answer questions from a social justice viewpoint. it's just something thats been bothering me so i thought it'd come to reddit to see what other people thought. Learn how your comment data is processed. 0000004651 00000 n trailer I just posted a new video talking about cultural appropriation and art! 0 Facing History & Ourselves uses lessons of history to challenge And whoever!). Turning on By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. however, the w*ndigo originates from spiritual beliefs held by Indigenous peoples. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. spellings (see Colombo 2) but is most commonly rendered as Windigo, Wendigo, or Witiko. Answer (1 of 8): Yes, unless actively researched with proper resources and talked to with First Nation folks as proof-readers. Im glad, because I dont believe that it is. This is a place to learn more bout Social Justice If you were to look around the world about other religions, anything that is associated with death and disease is regarded upon. This construction is problematic in the horror genre as it presents an Indigenous antagonist that poses a threat to white culture for its otherness and indigeneity while at the same time, misappropriating, discarding and demonising the Indigenous culture the myth comes from, at whim. 0000009596 00000 n WAYNE MILLER is the owner and creative director of EVIL CHEEZ PRODUCTIONS (www.evilcheezproductions.blogspot.com, www.facebook.com/evilcheezproductions), specializing in theatrical performances and haunted attractions. That is why we know about the wendigo today, it is an oral tradition like all the . The question of how to challenge the wtiko psychosis as described by Forbes and Wendigo Economics as described by LaDuke is a difficult one, but the mythic force of the concept of the wendigo helps to underscore the urgency of these questions. The windigo is a Native American spirit belonging to the Algonquian tribes of North America and Canada. In Algonquian traditions, the wendigo monster emerges not randomly or in violent response to colonialism as it often does in popular media but through a specific set of circumstances that are unique to different tribal groupings. Hunchman, K. N. (2020). The Witherell House and the Cult of Weird, Movie Review: BIRDS OF PREY (And the Fantabulous Inclusion of Victor Zsasz and a Hyena). We do the same thing with a lot of mythological creatures. As much as I would love to tell everyone to just read her sources and then be able to understand everything better, I just don't think that's realistic for most people(because they are not easily accessible to most, and I don't think that was her intention by including these in her description. defence-cultural-appropriation Cultural appropriation is defined by Britannica.com as "When members of a majority group adopt cultural elements of a minority group in an exploitative, disrespectful, or stereotypical way." Cultural appropriation is a growing topic in this country that when it occurs, or is discussed, often creates controversy. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. they've been stripped of cultural context. Be supportive, this is a place for growth, not hostility. 0000001705 00000 n It was intended to be a lesson on human greed and the damage it can cause. And were on the right side, thats what were working on but sometimes you get that cannibal tendency. He has written, produced and directed (and occasionally acted in) over a dozen plays, most of them in the Horror and Crime genres. By Christian Chiakulas, Contributor Writer, musician, activist, single father from Chicago. <>/Metadata 266 0 R/ViewerPreferences 267 0 R>> One of those advisors I just mentioned, Chris Eyre, had this to say of the Wendigo: They [meaning Native peoples] truly, truly believe in it, because it represents greed and colonialism when we first came to the shores of what is now America, and pillaged all of their resources and forced them [into] cannibalism. 0000008549 00000 n Rules: It may be used to justify calling. This article's cross-media analysis covers television, film and game media; Teen Wolf (2011-17), Supernatural (2005-20), Bruce Wemple's The Retreat (2020) and SuperMassive Games' Until Dawn . P\^$'$@YWSB;Td54BD?YH"'kh::a;Vqz&4|:>)xP2n |94NrOqE'6 0000008020 00000 n Please report rule violations. <> His line of questioning effectively asks what if the monstrosity we face is actually not an otherworldly presence but our all too human selves?. How stupid to think otherwise. 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